3.28.2006

Dialogue

Finally! I got some feedback from my professor/supervisor for my practicum and my journal entries, and I am amazed at how the questions he is asking are making me think. I feel motivated by them, as if there is value in this work. I find the class I am in to be slightly less motivating, because it often gets derailed by surface arguments.

Today for example, we talked about ethics, and there were many good points, but the discussion hinged on the assumption that there was no ground on which to build an ethic. No foundational assumptions were allowed because we are all so diverse in our moral assumptions. but this isn't even really the case! so many people assume a mostly judeo-christian framework for morals, they just can't call it that. not in the academy in canada anyways. its too far left. it makes me want to open up a restaurant. or a cafe of some kind. with books. and a loft to live in. hmmmmmm. where could that happen......

3 comments:

Ed Doerksen said...

Morning Dave: Two things, first of all, Erin wrote me and said she would be happy to talk to you about Rwanda and her experiences there if you are interested. She suggest you leave an entry on her blog and she'll reply. This is in answer to the program that you're involved with on Rwanda.

Second - ethics in Canada is an obstacle to the assumption that one can not legislate nor establish absolutes and morality. The diversity of cultures however allows for moral ethics. There are commonalities in all societies and all cultures that demand certain moral ethics. Without these commonalities, societies would not able to function.

In Canada, there is a huge attempt, no an unpresidented demand that morality can not be based in any form of theology or religious idealism. However in saying that, even the most hardened secular humanist has to agree that there are ethical and moral obligations placed on members of any society in order for that society to function with in a frame work that establishes community living in both the simplitst and extreme forms.

The fear in Canada is religion, not moral ethics. Religion in this sense is not only Judeo-Christian, but a fear of all relgions of any kind with out excemptions.

Moral ethics are involved in Canadian society, its just not sure how these ethics are or were established. Secular humanists do not want to admit that many of the moral and ethical ideologies that are commonly accepted in Canada are based on Judeo-Christian thinking. They search for a replacement of the religion and Judeo-Christian idologies, hoping to find something. Even secular humanism has ethics.

Is it moral or ethical to clone a human. Even the humanists tred carefully through this swamp.

For me I would support the concept that it would be ethical to clone organs and tissues for use in transplants and tissue repairs. To clone an entire human, for what purpose?

Is slavery ethical and/or moral? Is murder ethical or moral? From the very basics to the extreme, there has to be a moral and ethical ideologies established. Hence the fear - by establishing ethics and morals you must admit that there are absolutes built into a society and that these absolutes must be based on some form of idelogy or concept by which some form of precident can be established and expressed.

Oh my goodness but I miss this sort of stuff. I have no one here to discuss stuff like this. I am going brain dead, starving for intellectual conversation. AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Take care Dave. Hope to see you this summer.

Jason & Erin said...

Hi Dave
I'm glad to hear you are involved with Rwanda. You can email me at ex_nisbett@laurentian.ca, I tried to look at those sites but I am not sure they were the right ones. Hope all is well
Erin

Matthew Francis said...

Interesting the relationships between "ethics" and "ethos." Your restaraunt-cafe idea so much evokes a sense of place.